Avoid the scams, find out which Business Opportunities actually work
11th July 2007
Filed under: Direct Mail,Internet Marketing,Seminars — Ben @ 12:17 pm

Back in 2006 I put up a page about Pat Adams and his retirement package.

Although this offer has long since expired, the page still exists:

Pat Adams Retires

This write-up has a lot of details about the contents of the package that Pat was offering – which in all fairness was very impressive.

It’s been quite a while since I looked at it but today I received some DVDs that I bought from eBay and written on the back of the thank you note was a letter:

“I looked at your website, and the facts about Pat Adams’ retirement package are not entirely true.

I bought it, went to his retirement seminar day and was promised loads. He did give us a shopping cart website to sell his stuff, and I added lots of my own info, manuals/CDs but I discovered 3 weeks ago he has taken it down without letting me know and he is not answering my many emails.

He promised us the next 2 seminar DVDs etc and I only managed to get one lot of stuff by continually pestering him for it. I still haven’t received the newsletter software he promised for the 1st seminar.

I feel badly let down, but I don’t have contact with other people who went to the retirement day to see if they have had anything from him or not”

Now in all fairness to Pat, emails can go astray and therefore remain unanswered. Years of continuous spamming by morons means that many people have over-zealous spam filters which will gobble up the most innocent of emails.

However, as this person was kind enough to take the time to write to me I would like to ask anyone else who bought this package to get in touch and let me know if they received everything that was promised.

I have just bought a package which promised several expensive bonuses which I have yet to receive and so I can understand how frustrating it is. The person who offered these bonuses is currently not responding to emails or help desk tickets and there are many people who are starting to worry.

So, if you did get Pat’s retirement package, please do get in touch and let me know how you found it. You can find my email address on the main site at:



  1. Hello

    Pat is still in the USA (mid July). He had planned to return in early June but his son Andrew broke his leg. So Pat has had to delay his return.

    Also, earlier this year Pat was ill. Without Pat’s permission I don’t want to go into details but it did put him out of action for awhile.

    I do know of one person who attended the same seminar and as far as I am aware has received everything.

    I know Pat receives up to 100 emails a day!

    I’ve been a customer of his since 1994 and always found him fair, if a little slow to respond – but always honest and reasonable.

    Lee Wood

    Comment by Lee Wood — 13th July 2007 @ 10:20 am

  2. Hi,
    I received an email from a customer today directing me to this comment .

    I’m sorry to hear that the person you bought the DVDs from wasn’t happy.

    Perhaps if I could take a few lines just to give my side of the story.
    Yes I did provide each delegate with a shopping cart . I also gave them a URL of their choice and free unlimited hosting for a year . This was mid 2006 .

    In October 2006 I held a newsletter seminar and copies of this were sent to all retirement delegates as a free gift.

    In January of 2007 I was taken ill and was out of circulation for about 3 months. This stopped me doing the second seminar of the extra two seminars I’d arranged to give to the delegates of my retirement seminar and I wrote to each delegate explaining the situation and informing them that I would send them a copy of the first seminar I held in the future

    As a way of convalescing we decided to spent 3 months in the US Leaving in March .

    I then replied to the emails and messages, that the admin assistant I’d employed over the
    previous 3 months hadn’t been able to answer or close.

    Everything was getting back to normal. My health was better and the backlog was cleared , when on the 20th May my son broke both his tibia and fibula playing basket ball.

    Just to compound the problem we were on a cruise ship at the time ( Yvonne’s birthday present) The break was so bad, the cruise company turned the ship around and took us back to the US. After Andrew had, had an operation to mend his leg, he wasn’t allowed to fly for a further 8 weeks so I finally arrive back in the UK in August.

    In July the free hosting I’d given delegates finished and the hosting company sent out a number of reminders. Unfortunately some of these reminders never got to their destination and with others the recipients didn’t reply. . The hosting company then checked the stats and if they found little or no traffic over the 12 month period they closed the sites

    In fact I lost two accounts that we used just for emails as there were no visitor stats

    Perhaps the reason why the person you bought the DVDs from didn’t get a reply from his emails was that he was emailing ukmastersseminars as this was one of the accounts we lost

    As you can see all in all this was just an unfortunate set of circumstances
    However for anyone who lost an account I have offered to register another URL and pay for a years hosting. Unfortunately I can’t put back anything they lost, but really there should have been a back up made.

    If you would like to provide me with the name of the person you bought the DVDs from I’d be pleased to contact them directly .

    Finally I’m a little surprised to read that this delegate was selling these DVDs on Ebay as a condition of the license was that they were not to be advertised on auction sites

    Comment by Pat Adams — 5th October 2007 @ 6:29 pm

  3. Hi Pat,

    Many thanks for the information and sorry to hear about your health problems.

    The DVDs that I purchased on eBay were not any of those that you sold the rights to, they were something else entirely – just to clear that up so nobody gets in trouble!



    Comment by Ben — 8th October 2007 @ 1:03 am

  4. Received a marketing letter today from Pat Adams. Directed me to http://www.recession-winner-2008.co.uk.

    Just to let pat know that the website does not work so it looks as though he has spent money sending out marketing newsletters to a website that does not work!

    From Sam

    Comment by Samantha — 18th July 2008 @ 9:09 pm

  5. Hello Just to add a few comments about Pat s retirement offer. I attended in 2006 and I must say I got everything I was promised. I think the support was a bit light but overall I have no complaints. No I didn t get a reminder when the site was taken down but that wasn t really an issue. I must say on Pat’s behalf – slow he may be to respond – but he is honest and genuine – I m quite sure about that. My only concern was ” Did he really retire!” but I have no concerns about what Pat delivered.

    Comment by Chris Williams — 26th July 2008 @ 7:03 pm

  6. Hi Pat Adams here I’m in the US At the monent

    Was checking my name today on Google and linked to here
    Yes I did retire and it lasted 14 months .
    The day came when I found myself counting the geckos in our garden in Florida . At that moment it was time to do something again

    Even Yvonne had , had enough . She said for goodness sake Pat go back to work . I will admit I must have been hell to live with.

    Now I’m semi-retired.

    The person who mentioned the mailing with the wrong url . Yes I do know. it was a printer’s mistake. Luckily it was noticed after a small mailing.

    I’d just like to say thanks to the people who answered on my behalf above
    You will be pleased to know my health is fine again and my son’s leg is back to normal . But he is banned from basketball courts on cruise ships.

    Now there’s a story, he’s the only kid I know who can turn around a cruise ship. One thing that came out of this was the need for good travel insurance. I bought it for 30 years , never made a claim although we had been delayed dozens of times, I never got around to making a claim

    But the day he did this Boy was I pleased the company I used was first class. The total cost to put him right came to $63,000
    that is without the $30,000 the cruise company estimated it cost to turn the ship around. and the $14,000 it cost to fly him home

    If anyone is looking for travel insurance it used insure and go
    and no I;m not an affiliate


    Pat Adams

    Comment by Pat adams — 1st August 2008 @ 11:00 pm

  7. Hi Pat,
    Just come across this site.

    I also purchased your retirement package in March 2006 and have a few issues…

    Would you be kind enough to email me so that we can sort out things in person – off the net?

    Sanaullah Khan

    Comment by Sanaullah Khan — 4th September 2008 @ 12:24 pm

  8. Hi There,

    I’ve just received an offer from Pat Adams to attend a seminar at Celtic Manor in Wales on 22nd November 2008.

    I am very interested, but a question I wanted answering, which was sent to the provided email address, was met with an auotomated reply, not a reply to my question.

    Can anyone provide me with an email address from which I might get an answer to my question?

    John Toner.

    Comment by John Toner — 6th October 2008 @ 4:37 pm

  9. Hi,Pat,I have tried many things & every thing in business.Most of them are set of instructions to nothing.Dissapointment is not the word for it,but Iam humble & not complained.Most of my friends have made it,one way or the other,to the top.Iam 51 & have a Family but feel my days will end in poverty.I was once a golden boy and made money in catering for other people,but not anymore!I dont have money to attend your seminar could you please spare a moments thought & tell me how much would it cost for someone like me to make a start at the bottom end? I still feel there must be some Human Beings left in society.Many thanks.

    Comment by Jahir — 22nd January 2009 @ 1:26 am

  10. Unfortunately Pat Adams has definately not retired. He will take your money – send you a couple of products then break all communication with you and move on… hiding behind the “your email must have ended up in the spam folder” excuse.

    Read his responses above to see how he never answers a question directly

    Comment by Two Grand Lighter — 24th February 2009 @ 10:47 pm

  11. I am still waiting for what I payed for, sent emails to 3 different addresses, no reply, left a message on his voicemail, no reply, sent him a letter by snail-mail, no reply. I was starting to think he was dead. up until this I thought he was straight.

    Comment by Paul — 23rd April 2009 @ 12:27 am

  12. Hi all,

    I have booked a seminar with Pat Adams on Saturday and Sunday 20 and 21 June 2009 at the Sheraton Hotel Heathrow, London. The cost is £27 per day per delegate which I thought was rediculously cheap. Am assuming there is a “hard sell” to come over that weekend (as with every seminar) so will let you know what happens.


    Comment by Daniel — 15th June 2009 @ 10:01 am

  13. Hi Daniel,

    You won’t necessarily be given the hard sell – in fact I believe that Pat is trying to get a lot of people in the room to make for a good recording of the seminar hence the ‘cheap’ ticket price.

    Do let us know how you get on, I imagine it’ll be well worth it. And I’d be very interested to hear the identity of the “Clickbank Millionaire” who is speaking alongside Pat in the schedule.


    Comment by Ben — 15th June 2009 @ 8:29 pm

  14. Wow!! Reading these comments, now I know I’m not alone!! The service I received form this man and his company was the worst I’ve ever had.. I forwarded his emails to friends, family and business associates.. they were shocked at how rude he was and have vowed never to sign up for his seminars!!! I cancelled my ticket to his seminar way before the start date and it took them 3 months to refund it as well as loads of emails from me!
    I cant believe that someone like Mark Anastasi is supporting this guy. I hope he only goes as far as he deserves, which is nowhere!!!!

    Comment by Sam — 10th July 2009 @ 5:44 pm

  15. Wow!
    I’m glad I came to this site to read about Pat Adams.

    I received a direct mail from him today about his ‘break-free-seminar’, scheduled for 25/26 July 2009 and costing £94. I was about to sign up, but decided to do a google search on him first. Thank God I did! Now I won’t touch him with a bargepole.

    Thanks to Nick Laight for his site bizoppsuk (a fantastic site where information can be trusted).

    [Addition by Ben: Thanks for the comment Dave but I’m afraid I must correct you. BizOppsUK.com is my website, Nick doesn’t have any input and is not involved whatsoever with that site]

    Comment by dave — 10th July 2009 @ 7:46 pm

  16. I’m the person who left comment number one about Pat Adams.
    I have been a customer of his since 1994. I have to agree his response can be slow. However, if YOU received up to 100 emails A DAY with people all expecting a reply – how many would you have time to respond to?
    I have ALWAYS found him to be honest and trustworthy – and remember I am an actual customer – not someone giving second-hand comments.
    The quality and amount of information Pat gives out as his seminars is superb and has certainly helped me to make a lot of money – a LOT of money!
    And his products are superb. His “Masters Forum” newsletter series is one of the most powerful and remarkable products I have ever had the pleasure to read. I defy anyone to read it and not be inspired enough to succeed.
    To make money you have to take the information Pat (or anyone else) offers and TAKE ACTION. I have done this and the results have been amazing.
    But then I have also made money from the information from people like Streetwise Publications (I’ve been a very satisfied customer since 1992), David Anderson, Tim Lowe, Nick James, John Lisgo, the very underrated Avril Harper and many others.
    My “Library” of Business Opportunities has cost me well over £250,000 (a quarter of a million). Ask yourself – would anyone pay out this amount (and how could they afford the money) unless they were making a lot more from the information?
    Business Opportunities are what the name implies – opportunities. YOU have to put in a little work to see the results.
    Pat Adams has helped a lot of people to discover success and I for one have benefitted from him.
    I attended his Break Free Seminar on June 20th/21st. At £27 a day this was one of the best bargains I have ever found and I plan to attend the one on July 25th/26th.

    Lee Wood

    Comment by Lee Wood — 18th July 2009 @ 9:07 pm

  17. Hi Andy,

    I stumbled across this thread last night, while looking for something else. (Hmm… can’t remember what now. Senior moment?? Probably!)

    Anyway, I was absolutely horrified at what I read. For what it’s worth:

    1. Lee does not work for Pat.

    2. Neither do I!

    3. In my opinion, Pat Adams is 100% honest.

    I met Pat in 2004. I spent about £1,200 for a day with him at the Celtic Manor. (I think it was the first event he ran there.) I thought it was first-rate. Pat really gave 100% of himself. Afterwards, he did his level best to help me (at no extra cost) from making some dumb mistakes. (I still made ’em though! My fault, not his.)

    By 2009 I’d had five years of making some money and making lots more dumb mistakes. So I went to Pat’s two seminars at Heathrow. Again I thought he was 100% authentic. I’ve happily spent another £1,200 with him on two courses. The first batch of each course is absolutely first-class.

    Whatever you do in this world, there are problems. Fact of life. At one point, I was sending emails to Pat which weren’t getting through. (And, believe me, he wanted the contents – some writing I did for him.) But his email provider (which was excellent) had been sold to another provider (which used to be excellent) which was sold on (I won’t mention names!) to one that ain’t excellent. So he’ll probably have all the hassle of changing over. (As I’ve got the same provider, so will I.)

    With the Royal(!?) Mail, Pat was getting frustrated with some stuff I wasn’t getting. (Is there a Black Hole out there?) He bust a gut to get replacements through to me (at his own cost). He couldn’t have done more.

    Pat has his venues at pretty good hotels. They ain’t tatty! Now they must make a tidy sum from him. Again, no names, no pack drill. (I don’t want this site to get sued!) If I was Pat, I’d be giving them a right rollicking about their customer service to him. But neither Pat, nor you, nor I are going to change the British hotel industry – which wouldn’t know proper customer service if it fell over it.

    So yes, there can be practical problems. But it’s the nature of our media that we hear more about the 1% of people suffering problems than the 99% that are really happy with things.

    Sorry, I didn’t mean to be writing so much of this stuff! But I care very deeply that a decent man can be made to look bad. And I’m absolutely convinced that Pat Adams is a decent and massively talented man.

    Andy, maybe you’ll be convinced and maybe you won’t. But I can assure you that every syllable I’ve written here is 100% true to the best of my knowledge.

    Comment by Michael Ward — 24th July 2009 @ 9:50 pm

  18. Hi
    Im still waiting to recieve the licensed product discs promised to attendees of the 2day workshop in May 2009.

    I did eventually get the £94 refund after some pestering but have been promised on several occassions that the discs were being mailed out. I did cynically suggest to one delegate that I hoped the reason that the workshop price was below £100 was to avoid customers invoking the credit card company guarantee if there was a problem. A coincidence perhaps.

    The workshop was ok – bearing in mind I did get the money refunded. Nothing much I didnt already know – but seeing that someone like Pat could do it gave me more confidence in my own abilities. And the networking was good. Pat is someone I would class as a Chancer – he has had some success despite his limitations. He readily accepted that he know little about many of the things he promotes. I suppose that is one definition of an entrepreneur and I wont knock him for that….I just wish he was more diligent in his dealings.

    I suspect that Pat was over-optimistic about the level of upsell he would achieve at the May workshop. Despite preaching about outsourcing, it does seem that his own set up is very amateurish and relies on family to fulfilorders/promises. Nothing wrong with that if the system works. But clearly it doesnt.

    If my experience is typical, Pats reputation wont have been enhanced by his inability to keep to simple promises. I fear that cashflow rather than organisational capacity is the reason for the delay. If he is as good as he markets himself, he could have farmed the disc production and distribution out to someone for a few hundred pounds and enhanced his reputation with the 150-odd delegates there in May 09. Is he a thief – no. Does he display poor judgement- yes.

    Comment by paul — 29th July 2009 @ 12:11 pm

  19. It looks as if there may have been a mix-up in understanding about terms and conditions for a seminar held a few months ago.

    Unfortunately I didn’t attend the seminar so I cannot speak from experience about what was promised and what happened etc.

    This leaves me in a position of having to choose one person’s word over another’s.

    In the interest of fairness I don’t want to do that so I have decided to remove some comments from this blog post.

    All I will say is that in the past I have purchased several products from Pat and each one was delivered in good time. In one case I mistakenly bought the same seminar recordings twice but the second one was exchanged with no complaints.

    Comment by Ben — 12th August 2009 @ 10:57 am

  20. Ben, i’m puzzled as to why you have taken my posts down. I thought this was supposed to be a ‘unbiased’ site to give potential biz opp seekers some info on how to avoid getting burnt etc? Whats the point if you are just going to censure posts which you dont agree with? It destroys the whole credibility of this site. What other ‘negative’ posts about other gurus (who are probably your friends, no doubt) have you taken down?


    Comment by andy — 14th August 2009 @ 2:42 pm

  21. ben sorry but if you cant decide who is telling the truth or not, then surely in the interest of ‘fairness’, as you say, you should leave all comments be, and let readers make up their own mind? Isn’t that the whole purpose of a site like this?

    if you in any way believe i have fabricated any of my comments then i would be more than willing to supply you with all the email documentary proof of the whole sorry saga!, including those from paypal.

    best wishes

    Comment by andy — 14th August 2009 @ 2:48 pm

  22. sorry again but just to address the “hotel” issue…… 250 people in one small hotel delegate room is not the fault of the hotel! its the greed of the promoter – if i were organising a seminar with 250 delegates , i would have asked and paid for a bigger room. Its not rocket science!

    and thanks Paul for backing up my comment about fulfillment – if he is apparently making millions then why doesn’t he outsource his fulfillment? keeping it “in the family” is a huge weakness in his business, and leads to the appalling service he gives. If Pat reads this, Pat, my advice to you, with the best will in the world, is this: “outsource your fulfillment, and 99% of your problems with customers like me will evaporate overnight, because you are simply incapable of doing it”

    Comment by andy — 14th August 2009 @ 2:57 pm

  23. Hi Andy

    I’ve been told that you have had a refund now, is that correct?



    Comment by Ben — 14th August 2009 @ 9:06 pm

  24. Quick comment for Andy:

    Hi Andy,

    Thanks for the personal comment, I have removed it as you asked.

    Your points are valid and well made and I can understand why you are unhappy that your comments were removed. However, I need to see the T&Cs of the website for the seminar you attended as there are apparently some clauses which might go a little way to explaining the actual “promise” made to attendees.

    Also, I need proof of certain wrongdoings. For example, on the one hand I am led to believe that attendees of that seminar were offered a refund of the fee *and* product licences in addition to this. The other side tells me that the product licences were only for those who did not take up the offer of the refund.

    If I can see that website, as it was at the time of booking, then your posts may well reappear on this site…

    I cannot simply allow any negative comments without adequate proof of wrongdoing. Believe me, both sides of the story sound plausible – I’ve heard your side via this site and I’ve heard the other side via email.



    Comment by Ben — 19th August 2009 @ 7:36 am

  25. Hi Andy,

    Re your comments on the hotel room:

    sorry again but just to address the “hotel” issue…… 250 people in one small hotel delegate room is not the fault of the hotel! its the greed of the promoter – if i were organising a seminar with 250 delegates , i would have asked and paid for a bigger room. Its not rocket science!

    I was at both Pat Adams’ seminars at Heathrow earlier this year. (I presume you mean one of them; my apologies if not.)

    In my humble opinion, the room was absolutely fine. What, in heaven’s name, are you complaining about?

    Given that people were getting two days apiece of very good content indeed for nothing (or peanuts), I thought that the venue was more than generous.

    ‘The greed of the promotor’?? Sorry Andy, just can’t accept that…

    Comment by Michael Ward — 21st August 2009 @ 11:49 am

  26. Hi Michael

    the event i attended was the one where he was offering to refund the registration fee ( £47 per day) upon attendance. This ‘free’ offer resulted in literally 200 or so people in the room, each stuck on a small chair. Many people even had to stand at the back due to the lack of space. In my opinion that it no way to ethically run a seminar – i have been to my share of seminars in the last few years and had never experienced that much ‘cramming in’.

    I can only assume that you attended the event where there was no offer to refund the registration fee – which i think was his June event? Due to the fact that that seminar wasnt free, i can only assume also that it attracted nowhere near as many people.

    Comment by andy — 31st August 2009 @ 1:03 pm

  27. hi Ben

    thank you for your response. Unfortunately that website was taken down, and has been replaced with a fresh version, which basically no longer includes the registration fee as being refundable.

    with regard to the following:
    “For example, on the one hand I am led to believe that attendees of that seminar were offered a refund of the fee *and* product licences in addition to this. The other side tells me that the product licences were only for those who did not take up the offer of the refund.” ….

    …..again i can only say that the site was literally littered with the promise of the licenses and refund. If he subsequently found a way around this by way of small print then a) that’s hardly ethical anyway and b) he never once mentioned that fact in all the series of emails that went between us during the whole sorry episode. Any mention by myself of “wheres my product licenses then?” were simply ignored to the point where i just gave up asking!

    the whole thing was farcical, but anyway like i said, the site is a fresh sales copy now, and i do not want to kick it all off again.

    i accept the fact that maybe you’re in a difficult position and need to remain impartial with regards to what you allow to be posted, although i disagree that negative comments need to be removed!

    not to worry, c’est la vie i guess.
    ggod luck and thanks again for your reponse

    Comment by andy — 31st August 2009 @ 1:15 pm

  28. Lee (satisfied customer of Pat).

    I fully understand and agree with your comments about ‘use the information and TAKE ACTION’ and ‘put in a little work’- I have a very profitable business using self made products and was using Pats offer of ready made products to expand my portfolio. The point here is that I never got the licenced products to sell on!!

    He even agreed to refund me in line with his money back guarantee (of which I have a hard copy) …but it never arrived.

    100% true.

    I’m glad the truth is getting through on this excellent site and people are getting both sides of the story.

    I’ll write a more favourable response when I get my money. Potential investors note the date of my posts.

    Comment by Two Grand Lighter — 11th November 2009 @ 12:49 am

  29. Two Grand Lighter,

    glad to see I am not the only one who has had a bad experience with this ‘gentleman’ (i use the term loosely, as he turned out to be one of the most arrogant people i have had the displeasure of dealing with)

    just one point i wanted to make, regarding the money back issue…. i had to go to great lengths to get my money back, in fact i would say “extreme lengths”. My advice – dont be afraid to involve as many authorities as you need to in order to get your money back. He will resist as much as he can, so you need to make it absolutely clear to him that you will take every action necessary to get your money back. I had to contact Trading Standards, Paypal, Swansea Police, to name but a few.

    The more that authorities know about what he is up to, and the more he is brought to their attention, the more chance there is that they will take big action against him.

    potential investors should also take notice of Mr Adams’s seminar boasts of “re-branding and recycling” old newsletter content into new newsletters, and offering them to existing subscribers who bought the old newsletter, and how they ‘never know the difference!’ the man has no shame

    it is such a shame because he gives this whole industry a bad name, and there are a lot of guys out there offering GENUINE opportunites – unfortunately Mr Adams is not one of them.

    Best of luck, and i’ll keep an eye out on here to see how you get on.

    Comment by andy — 12th November 2009 @ 3:24 pm

  30. I have paid Pat several thousand pounds, first to attend a seminar at the end of 2008 and then as a Joint Venture partner. Three meetings were to take place and only the first one actually did take place as far as I know.

    I have had promises of action ever since, punctuated by periods of illness and injured back etc. We agreed on a joint-venture product. I was to put my part on disc and send to Pat who
    was then to add his part. This was to be produced monthly. It was a good idea. More sickness ensued. Nothing has transpired.

    His telephone line is no longer in operation. I do not get a response to emails. In light of what I have read online about Pat
    since I feel I have been scammed.

    Whether to take action with the various authorities I have not decided yet.

    Comment by Lorna — 2nd December 2009 @ 10:51 pm

  31. for Lorna

    Lorna my advice….. document everything that has happened, and go to ALL authorities you think relevant…. is seems this man is always ill, or has a leg ache,or some other rubbish excuse not to fulfill his empty promises…all the while holding YOUR MONEY in HIS bank account, and enjoying lavish holidays at YOUR expense

    …. let him know in writing, by way of recorded delivery, exactly what you intend to do, and what authorities you intend to contact, and if he doesn’t fulfill his obligations inform him that you will also show up in person at all of his future seminars, where you will warn as many attendees as possible of exactly what happened to you, and what will possibly happen to them if they part with any money with this guy.

    Most of all, DONT let him bully you into thinking you are just a ‘small’ person, and that he is a ‘millionaire’, and that therefore he is in some way doing you a favour by helping you! I am not even convinced that he is a millionaire, and i maintain the view that he is, in my opinion, the most corrupt of all these so-called ‘gurus’ out there. Not sure if my email will show up, but if you want some more help feel free to email me at andy@andrewrother.com

    Comment by andy — 25th December 2009 @ 1:39 am

  32. I paid for a seminar at Heathrow last year. A few days before, I got an email to say that it had been cancelled due to illness and I was given another date. Again this was cancelled. I then got a letter to say that his company had gone into liquidation. Obviously a scam.

    Comment by Martin — 26th May 2010 @ 10:57 pm

  33. Hi Martin,

    Wow, that’s some very interesting information – thanks for sharing!

    I just have a couple of questions:

    (1) Which seminars were cancelled? Could you supply the dates?

    (2) Which company went into liquidation? Is there any chance you could scan the letter and send me a copy via email?

    I honestly didn’t know that any of Pat’s companies had gone into liquidation so this is very interesting news.

    Comment by Ben — 27th May 2010 @ 9:58 am

  34. I am sure you have good intentions, with “exposing” Pat Adams, but I must say, that I have been to a few of his seminars, and I got everything he promised, I was sent every dvd – which was promised.

    I don’t find him arrogant at all, I thought and still think he is a lovely person, and very funny and honest, and I really love him.

    So to me it feels like spam, all these people complainig about him.

    BTW, I really think that he has health issues, so this is not a reason to judge a person.

    I hope you will publish this

    Thank you

    Comment by Laura — 3rd June 2010 @ 10:49 am

  35. laura with all due respect to your opinion but … EVERYBODY is nice when they want your money! The mark of how ‘nice and honest’ someone is is when it comes to having to refund it!

    As for his company going into liquidation… it it the company, or Mr Adams himself? And no wonder he went into liquidation with the appalling customer service he provides – hope he learns his lesson.

    Comment by andy — 23rd July 2010 @ 6:03 am

  36. It is now January 2011. Pat Adams was to come back to me at the beginning of 2010 to put together a joint-venture. Ill health was
    the reason his wife gave for this having to be delayed until the spring of last year. Of course… again, no contact. The course of action is quite clear. If you can’t deliver on what you have promised then you refund what has been paid to you. It’s also obvious that Pat Adams does not intend to deliver what he has contracted to deliver. Nor does he intend to make a refund. I will now be taking action and reporting this to every relevant authority.

    Comment by Lorna — 19th January 2011 @ 5:26 pm

  37. I attended one of Pat Adams mentorship programme which turned out to be a real scam. First of all meetings were cancelled without proper notice,then names & emails of other participants were not distributed as promised. Emails were not replied to and any sent from me was ignored. Excuses such as no RIGHT SIZE ENVELOPE TO DO DIRECT MAIL and so on. When I asked for my cash back I was told to “Bugger OFF” (hope its the right spelling)
    When I took advice and went to court the money was promptly REFUNDED.

    I have all the correspondence and County Court Case with me for proof

    Lorna you can get in touch with me and use my case in your defence


    Comment by Allen Fernandes — 26th January 2011 @ 3:13 pm

  38. I just came across this thread regarding Pat Adams.I was an attendee at his seminar held on 23/05/2009 and 24/0/5/2009.Unfortunately, he failed to deliver on his promises. I enclose a copy of email sent to Pat Adams on 23/09/2009(which was my last email sent to him.)
    If, by chance, Pat Adams is reading this post then please refund my money as promised.You can keep the licenses to your products as I do not want to promote your products at any price.

    Dear Sir,
    I have not received replies to my recent e-mails dated 20/07/09, 11/08/09 and 25/08/09 regarding the promised free resell licenses
    together with the free dvds of the seminar attended on 23/05/09 and 24/05/09.

    Your urgent ATTENTION to the matter will be very much appreciated.

    Yours sincerely

    R. Osman

    PS: The issue has remained unresolved for almost 4 months. Please send my items without further delays. Again I can confirm that I have not received any package from you so far.

    PPS: If sending the items are a problem then the least you can do is refund my seminar fees of £94 paid through paypal on 12/05/09.( your refund promise).

    PPPS: I still wish you fast and speedy recovery as I had also wished you well in my email dated 11/08/09.

    Comment by Rafik Osman — 14th April 2011 @ 12:19 am

  39. it seems that very little has changed since i last checked this thread a few months back – and it is also clear that Mr Adams has a clear history of taking people’s money, and then using the ‘i am ill’ excuse to not fulfill his obligations, or reply to emails! All the while keeping hold of the high sums of money that he asks for his (non-existent) service. it seems he has been pulling this trick continuously for several years now.

    I reckon the people on here are just the tip of the iceberg – truth is known and i would hazard a guess that there are many many more people who have been taken in by this, I alledge, “conman”.

    I repeat to anyone who has been taken in by this man: do not be fobbed off by rubbish excuses from him as to why he cannot fulfill his obligations which you paid for. If he refuses to do exactly what he said he would do in return for your hard earnt cash simply go to the police, trading standards and the county court. Dont let these people get away with it! It is YOUR and your family’s money, after all.

    And interesting to note that he told Allen to BUGGER OFF when he asked for his money back! – he said exactly the same to me (and worse!) when he initially thought he could just steal MY money. Soon changed his tune though when he got a phone call from Swansea Police!

    Comment by andy — 15th May 2011 @ 10:52 pm

  40. i purchased one of programmes ,decided it was unwokable and phoned him he told to return by recorded d/l and he would return payment immediately ,i am still waiting. i phoned his number and his wife actually anwered the phone ,after explaining the reason for my call ,he was not aailable but she was surprised and said she would get him to ring me back. needless to say i am still waiting for call and payment ,she is jost as much a con artist as him. if anybody out there knows of their current abode or whereabouts i would appreciate

    any information my telephone no.is 720316

    Comment by jim allan — 6th October 2011 @ 11:28 am

  41. I found out the painful way that Pat Adams is a rip off.

    After reading the comments on this site I can say the Pat Adams is the only person to rip me off in the Internet Marketing world.

    I paid the money and was promised two places at his seminar. Some weeks later his wife wrote with the excuse of him being ill, and that the event would be postponed.

    At that time, I believed him and continued to wait patiently.

    His email concerning the delay,included the promise of a DVD “bonuses” and access to his soon to be launched new “product”. This never, ever arrived.

    I sent many emails, both to express sympathy, and to enquire about the seminar and overdue compensation.

    None received a reply.

    Later, I got a legal document saying Pat Adams business was being wound down.

    The ticket fees were never returned, and the compensation products they promised never ever appeared.

    I wrote to him, and his wife Yvonne Adams countless times, but neither had the good manners to reply at any stage.

    They had plenty of opportunity to make good my payment, but failed in every sense to conduct honest, ethical business.

    I should have seen through his cranky appearance, which is to appear being dressed like a shallow TV evangelist in a yellow suit.

    In conclusion, firmly believe that this guy Pat Adams is a complete rip-off merchant. I would not recommend any dealings with him or his wife.

    Comment by Patrick Flynn — 9th January 2012 @ 6:31 pm

  42. Over a year and no news…Wonder what ever happened to Pat Adams?

    [Addition by Ben: The last I heard was that Pat was quite ill so he has likely stepped away from the business for the time being]

    Comment by Pete — 30th June 2013 @ 12:50 pm

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