Back in 2006 I put up a page about Pat Adams and his retirement package.
Although this offer has long since expired, the page still exists:
This write-up has a lot of details about the contents of the package that Pat was offering - which in all fairness was very impressive.
It’s been quite a while since I looked at it but today I received some DVDs that I bought from eBay and written on the back of the thank you note was a letter:
“I looked at your website, and the facts about Pat Adams’ retirement package are not entirely true.
I bought it, went to his retirement seminar day and was promised loads. He did give us a shopping cart website to sell his stuff, and I added lots of my own info, manuals/CDs but I discovered 3 weeks ago he has taken it down without letting me know and he is not answering my many emails.
He promised us the next 2 seminar DVDs etc and I only managed to get one lot of stuff by continually pestering him for it. I still haven’t received the newsletter software he promised for the 1st seminar.
I feel badly let down, but I don’t have contact with other people who went to the retirement day to see if they have had anything from him or not”
Now in all fairness to Pat, emails can go astray and therefore remain unanswered. Years of continuous spamming by morons means that many people have over-zealous spam filters which will gobble up the most innocent of emails.
However, as this person was kind enough to take the time to write to me I would like to ask anyone else who bought this package to get in touch and let me know if they received everything that was promised.
I have just bought a package which promised several expensive bonuses which I have yet to receive and so I can understand how frustrating it is. The person who offered these bonuses is currently not responding to emails or help desk tickets and there are many people who are starting to worry.
So, if you did get Pat’s retirement package, please do get in touch and let me know how you found it. You can find my email address on the main site at:
Hello
Pat is still in the USA (mid July). He had planned to return in early June but his son Andrew broke his leg. So Pat has had to delay his return.
Also, earlier this year Pat was ill. Without Pat’s permission I don’t want to go into details but it did put him out of action for awhile.
I do know of one person who attended the same seminar and as far as I am aware has received everything.
I know Pat receives up to 100 emails a day!
I’ve been a customer of his since 1994 and always found him fair, if a little slow to respond - but always honest and reasonable.
Lee Wood
Comment by Lee Wood – July 13, 2007 @ 10:20 am
Hi,
I received an email from a customer today directing me to this comment .
I’m sorry to hear that the person you bought the DVDs from wasn’t happy.
Perhaps if I could take a few lines just to give my side of the story.
Yes I did provide each delegate with a shopping cart . I also gave them a URL of their choice and free unlimited hosting for a year . This was mid 2006 .
In October 2006 I held a newsletter seminar and copies of this were sent to all retirement delegates as a free gift.
In January of 2007 I was taken ill and was out of circulation for about 3 months. This stopped me doing the second seminar of the extra two seminars I’d arranged to give to the delegates of my retirement seminar and I wrote to each delegate explaining the situation and informing them that I would send them a copy of the first seminar I held in the future
As a way of convalescing we decided to spent 3 months in the US Leaving in March .
I then replied to the emails and messages, that the admin assistant I’d employed over the
previous 3 months hadn’t been able to answer or close.
Everything was getting back to normal. My health was better and the backlog was cleared , when on the 20th May my son broke both his tibia and fibula playing basket ball.
Just to compound the problem we were on a cruise ship at the time ( Yvonne’s birthday present) The break was so bad, the cruise company turned the ship around and took us back to the US. After Andrew had, had an operation to mend his leg, he wasn’t allowed to fly for a further 8 weeks so I finally arrive back in the UK in August.
In July the free hosting I’d given delegates finished and the hosting company sent out a number of reminders. Unfortunately some of these reminders never got to their destination and with others the recipients didn’t reply. . The hosting company then checked the stats and if they found little or no traffic over the 12 month period they closed the sites
In fact I lost two accounts that we used just for emails as there were no visitor stats
Perhaps the reason why the person you bought the DVDs from didn’t get a reply from his emails was that he was emailing ukmastersseminars as this was one of the accounts we lost
As you can see all in all this was just an unfortunate set of circumstances
However for anyone who lost an account I have offered to register another URL and pay for a years hosting. Unfortunately I can’t put back anything they lost, but really there should have been a back up made.
If you would like to provide me with the name of the person you bought the DVDs from I’d be pleased to contact them directly .
Finally I’m a little surprised to read that this delegate was selling these DVDs on Ebay as a condition of the license was that they were not to be advertised on auction sites
Comment by Pat Adams – October 5, 2007 @ 6:29 pm
Hi Pat,
Many thanks for the information and sorry to hear about your health problems.
The DVDs that I purchased on eBay were not any of those that you sold the rights to, they were something else entirely - just to clear that up so nobody gets in trouble!
Cheers,
Ben
Comment by Ben – October 8, 2007 @ 1:03 am
Received a marketing letter today from Pat Adams. Directed me to http://www.recession-winner-2008.co.uk.
Just to let pat know that the website does not work so it looks as though he has spent money sending out marketing newsletters to a website that does not work!
From Sam
Comment by Samantha – July 18, 2008 @ 9:09 pm
Hello Just to add a few comments about Pat s retirement offer. I attended in 2006 and I must say I got everything I was promised. I think the support was a bit light but overall I have no complaints. No I didn t get a reminder when the site was taken down but that wasn t really an issue. I must say on Pat’s behalf - slow he may be to respond - but he is honest and genuine - I m quite sure about that. My only concern was ” Did he really retire!” but I have no concerns about what Pat delivered.
Comment by Chris Williams – July 26, 2008 @ 7:03 pm
Hi Pat Adams here I’m in the US At the monent
Was checking my name today on Google and linked to here
Yes I did retire and it lasted 14 months .
The day came when I found myself counting the geckos in our garden in Florida . At that moment it was time to do something again
Even Yvonne had , had enough . She said for goodness sake Pat go back to work . I will admit I must have been hell to live with.
Now I’m semi-retired.
The person who mentioned the mailing with the wrong url . Yes I do know. it was a printer’s mistake. Luckily it was noticed after a small mailing.
I’d just like to say thanks to the people who answered on my behalf above
You will be pleased to know my health is fine again and my son’s leg is back to normal . But he is banned from basketball courts on cruise ships.
Now there’s a story, he’s the only kid I know who can turn around a cruise ship. One thing that came out of this was the need for good travel insurance. I bought it for 30 years , never made a claim although we had been delayed dozens of times, I never got around to making a claim
But the day he did this Boy was I pleased the company I used was first class. The total cost to put him right came to $63,000
that is without the $30,000 the cruise company estimated it cost to turn the ship around. and the $14,000 it cost to fly him home
If anyone is looking for travel insurance it used insure and go
and no I;m not an affiliate
Regards
Pat Adams
Comment by Pat adams – August 1, 2008 @ 11:00 pm
Hi Pat,
Just come across this site.
I also purchased your retirement package in March 2006 and have a few issues…
Would you be kind enough to email me so that we can sort out things in person - off the net?
Regards
Sanaullah Khan
Comment by Sanaullah Khan – September 4, 2008 @ 12:24 pm
Hi There,
I’ve just received an offer from Pat Adams to attend a seminar at Celtic Manor in Wales on 22nd November 2008.
I am very interested, but a question I wanted answering, which was sent to the provided email address, was met with an auotomated reply, not a reply to my question.
Can anyone provide me with an email address from which I might get an answer to my question?
John Toner.
Comment by John Toner – October 6, 2008 @ 4:37 pm
Hi,Pat,I have tried many things & every thing in business.Most of them are set of instructions to nothing.Dissapointment is not the word for it,but Iam humble & not complained.Most of my friends have made it,one way or the other,to the top.Iam 51 & have a Family but feel my days will end in poverty.I was once a golden boy and made money in catering for other people,but not anymore!I dont have money to attend your seminar could you please spare a moments thought & tell me how much would it cost for someone like me to make a start at the bottom end? I still feel there must be some Human Beings left in society.Many thanks.
Comment by Jahir – January 22, 2009 @ 1:26 am
Unfortunately Pat Adams has definately not retired. He will take your money - send you a couple of products then break all communication with you and move on… hiding behind the “your email must have ended up in the spam folder” excuse.
Read his responses above to see how he never answers a question directly
Comment by Two Grand Lighter – February 24, 2009 @ 10:47 pm
I am still waiting for what I payed for, sent emails to 3 different addresses, no reply, left a message on his voicemail, no reply, sent him a letter by snail-mail, no reply. I was starting to think he was dead. up until this I thought he was straight.
Comment by Paul – April 23, 2009 @ 12:27 am
Hi all,
I have booked a seminar with Pat Adams on Saturday and Sunday 20 and 21 June 2009 at the Sheraton Hotel Heathrow, London. The cost is £27 per day per delegate which I thought was rediculously cheap. Am assuming there is a “hard sell” to come over that weekend (as with every seminar) so will let you know what happens.
Daniel.
Comment by Daniel – June 15, 2009 @ 10:01 am
Hi Daniel,
You won’t necessarily be given the hard sell - in fact I believe that Pat is trying to get a lot of people in the room to make for a good recording of the seminar hence the ‘cheap’ ticket price.
Do let us know how you get on, I imagine it’ll be well worth it. And I’d be very interested to hear the identity of the “Clickbank Millionaire” iwho is speaking alongside Pat in the schedule.
Ben
Comment by Ben – June 15, 2009 @ 8:29 pm
i went to pat adams Break Free Seminar back in May, which cost £47 per day (total £94) to attend, and which he promised to refund on attendance (i.e. it was a ‘holding deposit’)
6 weeks after the event, and despite 2 reminders (which were acknowledged, therefore received) i am still waiting for my money to be returned. i also have not received 3 sets of products with resell licenses that were also promised.
i dont necessarily think that Mr Adams is a dishonest man, but he organises semainars which attract several hundred people at a time, and then proceeds to deal with all the admin and dvd duplication himself or just with the help of his wife and son! And it takes AGES!
His whole sales pitch about the industry is to OUTSOURCE work, yet he chooses to do it all himself in-house - this method of trying to save himself a few bucks results in appalling customer service. Trying to run a business with only himself, his wife, and his son, whilst dealing with hundreds of customers refunds requests and the issuing of product licences to all those customers, is simply not acceptable, as he clearly cant cope with it. Any decent person in his shoes would be gettign in soem extra staff to help him (im sure he can afford it, apparently?)
i am sure that over the last 6 weeks whilst i, and many others no doubt, have been waiting for our refunds and products, Mr Adams has not been working reasonable hours (eg 8 hours a day) to fulfill his promises. More likely back out in Florida enjoying the warm sunshine at my expense, at one hours work a day!
Comment by andy – July 1, 2009 @ 12:33 pm
just an update on my earlier post…….
i have since contacted Mr Adams by phone, and to say i was shocked by his response is an understatement!
his sales pitch for his seminar was quite clear…..”your registration deposit of £47 will be refunded, as long as you show up, and you will get 3 licensed products (dvd sets) ready to go.”
yet when i mentioned this on the phone to him, and requested my money back, the only response i got was “if you want the money back you’ll have to organise it yourself. Im too fed up of you freeloaders coming to my seminars for nothing (i.e. referring to the attendees who hadnt bought any of his products or courses!)”, before slamming the phone down on me!
he had sold his “break free seminar” on the premise that he needed an audience for his upcoming web tv channel. What a load of baloney and lies! this was just a sales pitch to get people to register and attend his seminar, so he could upsell them all. And now he is gettign all angry because not as many people as he wanted bought his well over-priced products!
so it looks as though this man has decided not to give me my money back (which was his wholesales pitch in the first place, remember), so so far i have contacted Paypal, Swansea Police, Ofice Of Fair Trading, Tradign Standards, and the Serious Fraud Office. Why the Serious Fraud Office? Because Mr Adams, with over 250 people at his seminar, raised £23,500 by my calculations, and if he’s not returning that money to other attendees either then that in my mind is a major fraud.
stick away from this guy, he has shown his true colours to me. The man you see at the seminars is after one thing, and one thing only….YOUR money
Comment by andy – July 1, 2009 @ 5:43 pm
just to clarify,the break free seminar i am referring to was the one he held in May, where he was offering to refund the registration fee of £47 per day (which helped him get people to attend)
I am not referring to the seminr he did in June, which he charged £27 for and which he WASNT offering to refund. Just want to make that clear!
Comment by andy – July 1, 2009 @ 5:57 pm