Back in 2006 I put up a page about Pat Adams and his retirement package.
Although this offer has long since expired, the page still exists:
This write-up has a lot of details about the contents of the package that Pat was offering - which in all fairness was very impressive.
It’s been quite a while since I looked at it but today I received some DVDs that I bought from eBay and written on the back of the thank you note was a letter:
“I looked at your website, and the facts about Pat Adams’ retirement package are not entirely true.
I bought it, went to his retirement seminar day and was promised loads. He did give us a shopping cart website to sell his stuff, and I added lots of my own info, manuals/CDs but I discovered 3 weeks ago he has taken it down without letting me know and he is not answering my many emails.
He promised us the next 2 seminar DVDs etc and I only managed to get one lot of stuff by continually pestering him for it. I still haven’t received the newsletter software he promised for the 1st seminar.
I feel badly let down, but I don’t have contact with other people who went to the retirement day to see if they have had anything from him or not”
Now in all fairness to Pat, emails can go astray and therefore remain unanswered. Years of continuous spamming by morons means that many people have over-zealous spam filters which will gobble up the most innocent of emails.
However, as this person was kind enough to take the time to write to me I would like to ask anyone else who bought this package to get in touch and let me know if they received everything that was promised.
I have just bought a package which promised several expensive bonuses which I have yet to receive and so I can understand how frustrating it is. The person who offered these bonuses is currently not responding to emails or help desk tickets and there are many people who are starting to worry.
So, if you did get Pat’s retirement package, please do get in touch and let me know how you found it. You can find my email address on the main site at:
Hello
Pat is still in the USA (mid July). He had planned to return in early June but his son Andrew broke his leg. So Pat has had to delay his return.
Also, earlier this year Pat was ill. Without Pat’s permission I don’t want to go into details but it did put him out of action for awhile.
I do know of one person who attended the same seminar and as far as I am aware has received everything.
I know Pat receives up to 100 emails a day!
I’ve been a customer of his since 1994 and always found him fair, if a little slow to respond - but always honest and reasonable.
Lee Wood
Comment by Lee Wood – July 13, 2007 @ 10:20 am
Hi,
I received an email from a customer today directing me to this comment .
I’m sorry to hear that the person you bought the DVDs from wasn’t happy.
Perhaps if I could take a few lines just to give my side of the story.
Yes I did provide each delegate with a shopping cart . I also gave them a URL of their choice and free unlimited hosting for a year . This was mid 2006 .
In October 2006 I held a newsletter seminar and copies of this were sent to all retirement delegates as a free gift.
In January of 2007 I was taken ill and was out of circulation for about 3 months. This stopped me doing the second seminar of the extra two seminars I’d arranged to give to the delegates of my retirement seminar and I wrote to each delegate explaining the situation and informing them that I would send them a copy of the first seminar I held in the future
As a way of convalescing we decided to spent 3 months in the US Leaving in March .
I then replied to the emails and messages, that the admin assistant I’d employed over the
previous 3 months hadn’t been able to answer or close.
Everything was getting back to normal. My health was better and the backlog was cleared , when on the 20th May my son broke both his tibia and fibula playing basket ball.
Just to compound the problem we were on a cruise ship at the time ( Yvonne’s birthday present) The break was so bad, the cruise company turned the ship around and took us back to the US. After Andrew had, had an operation to mend his leg, he wasn’t allowed to fly for a further 8 weeks so I finally arrive back in the UK in August.
In July the free hosting I’d given delegates finished and the hosting company sent out a number of reminders. Unfortunately some of these reminders never got to their destination and with others the recipients didn’t reply. . The hosting company then checked the stats and if they found little or no traffic over the 12 month period they closed the sites
In fact I lost two accounts that we used just for emails as there were no visitor stats
Perhaps the reason why the person you bought the DVDs from didn’t get a reply from his emails was that he was emailing ukmastersseminars as this was one of the accounts we lost
As you can see all in all this was just an unfortunate set of circumstances
However for anyone who lost an account I have offered to register another URL and pay for a years hosting. Unfortunately I can’t put back anything they lost, but really there should have been a back up made.
If you would like to provide me with the name of the person you bought the DVDs from I’d be pleased to contact them directly .
Finally I’m a little surprised to read that this delegate was selling these DVDs on Ebay as a condition of the license was that they were not to be advertised on auction sites
Comment by Pat Adams – October 5, 2007 @ 6:29 pm
Hi Pat,
Many thanks for the information and sorry to hear about your health problems.
The DVDs that I purchased on eBay were not any of those that you sold the rights to, they were something else entirely - just to clear that up so nobody gets in trouble!
Cheers,
Ben
Comment by Ben – October 8, 2007 @ 1:03 am
Received a marketing letter today from Pat Adams. Directed me to http://www.recession-winner-2008.co.uk.
Just to let pat know that the website does not work so it looks as though he has spent money sending out marketing newsletters to a website that does not work!
From Sam
Comment by Samantha – July 18, 2008 @ 9:09 pm
Hello Just to add a few comments about Pat s retirement offer. I attended in 2006 and I must say I got everything I was promised. I think the support was a bit light but overall I have no complaints. No I didn t get a reminder when the site was taken down but that wasn t really an issue. I must say on Pat’s behalf - slow he may be to respond - but he is honest and genuine - I m quite sure about that. My only concern was ” Did he really retire!” but I have no concerns about what Pat delivered.
Comment by Chris Williams – July 26, 2008 @ 7:03 pm
Hi Pat Adams here I’m in the US At the monent
Was checking my name today on Google and linked to here
Yes I did retire and it lasted 14 months .
The day came when I found myself counting the geckos in our garden in Florida . At that moment it was time to do something again
Even Yvonne had , had enough . She said for goodness sake Pat go back to work . I will admit I must have been hell to live with.
Now I’m semi-retired.
The person who mentioned the mailing with the wrong url . Yes I do know. it was a printer’s mistake. Luckily it was noticed after a small mailing.
I’d just like to say thanks to the people who answered on my behalf above
You will be pleased to know my health is fine again and my son’s leg is back to normal . But he is banned from basketball courts on cruise ships.
Now there’s a story, he’s the only kid I know who can turn around a cruise ship. One thing that came out of this was the need for good travel insurance. I bought it for 30 years , never made a claim although we had been delayed dozens of times, I never got around to making a claim
But the day he did this Boy was I pleased the company I used was first class. The total cost to put him right came to $63,000
that is without the $30,000 the cruise company estimated it cost to turn the ship around. and the $14,000 it cost to fly him home
If anyone is looking for travel insurance it used insure and go
and no I;m not an affiliate
Regards
Pat Adams
Comment by Pat adams – August 1, 2008 @ 11:00 pm