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13th August 2009
Filed under: Horse Racing — Ben @ 11:31 am

An email came in yesterday from John Harrison of Streetwise trying to tempt me into buying a “brand new system” called “Lay Bet Genius“.

There is obviously some kind of affiliate arrangement as the domain name ends with “sw”, indicating Streetwise’s involvement no doubt.

This tactic seemed familiar as it was used by several companies to promote the The Lazy Lay Quick Profits System by Bill Stratford back in late 2007.

At that time each different company (i.e. each different joint venture partner) was provided with a specific URL to use to promote the system.

For example, if the company was called “X Promotional Masterminds” then they would use a URL such as lazylayxpm.co.uk (not a valid website or company name, I’m just using it to show an example) – where the xpm was added for tracking purposes.

In any case, the Lazy Lay system was pretty expensive for what it was – £197 for a short PDF file outlining the simple system.

Sadly it didn’t work very well either. As you can see if you go to the link above, I tested it extensively and found it lacking in its basic premise – it didn’t make any money.

This Lay Bet Genius system is also surprisingly expensive at £297, which is another reason why I think it might be from the same people as the Lazy Lay system.

I’ve also discovered that both the Lazy Lay and the Lay Bet Genius domains have been registered by the same company, “ProMax Data”.

So by adding up all of the little clues, my guess is that the same people are behind both systems.

Of course, this doesn’t necessarily mean that the Lay Bet Genius system won’t work but there is the track record (pun intended)…

(Just as a side note, if you are thinking of buying this then please thoroughly read through the guarantee conditions. If I remember correctly there were some rumblings about problems with the money back guarantee when the Lazy Lay system went wrong).


  1. Hi

    I too received details of the lay bet genius system from John Harrison at streetwise offering a free 7 day trial then £79.95 a month.

    Interestingly they give results from July 2008 which when compared to the Lazy Lay system results in your report from sept 08 are completely different.

    One wonders how genuine these reported results are! I do have to say however that the 1st 2 selections in my 7 day trial have been successful. I’ll keep you posted with my results after the week is over.

    Over the years I have received numerous offers of ‘wonderful’ betting sytems, none of which I’ve found as reliable as my own method of picking winners and losers.I sometimes feel perhaps I should market my own selections but I wouldn’t know where to start.

    Maybe someone such as your good self would be prepared to test me out completely free for a month to see if I can compete with these so-called experts.

    The outcome would be interesting.

    Kenny Fisher

    Comment by Kenny Fisher — 14th January 2010 @ 11:43 pm

  2. I too recieved the mailshot and am waiting with baited breath for an update from Kenny 🙂


    Comment by johnnymac — 26th January 2010 @ 2:44 pm

  3. Also subscribed to the new Lay Genius via Streetwise.

    Currenly £ 1,000 bank ( 3 % bets ) since Jan 5th is down to £ 628.

    40 bets 27 loosers ( ie winners ) 13 winners ( ie horse was 1st 32.5% )

    Surprise , Surprise thier worst loosing run for 15 months just when I join.

    Comment by PeterFenton — 28th January 2010 @ 3:24 pm

  4. Wow im down to to same amount as Peter, im also trying the other bet way, lets just say im not on top of that either, im going to try it until the end of feb……

    Comment by chris — 8th February 2010 @ 6:52 pm

  5. I am annoyed we always seem like we are being ripped off. If they were a good company their monthly results would show how they achieved 84,000 pounds in 12 months from a 30 pound stakeing bank.

    Comment by michael — 20th February 2010 @ 4:57 pm

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